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“The Nine Lives of Pakistan” with Declan Walsh and Shuja Nawaz

Award winning journalist and writer Declan Walsh, and Atlantic Council Distinguished Fellow Shuja Nawaz, discuss Walsh’s new book, The Nine Lives of Pakistan.

This is the third and final in a series of book talks hosted by the Atlantic Council’s South Asia Center and the American Pakistan Foundation with distinguished, award-winning authors.

APF’s President, Shamila Chaudhary, will be giving closing remarks after the conversation.


Shuja Nawaz is a political and strategic analyst. He is a Distinguished Fellow, South Asia Center at the Atlantic Council In Washington DC. He writes for leading newspapers and The Huffington Post, and speaks on current topics before civic groups, at think tanks, and on radio and television. He has worked on projects with RAND, the United States Institute of Peace, The Center for Strategic and International Studies, the Atlantic Council, and other leading think tanks on projects dealing with Pakistan and the Middle East. In January 2009 he was made the first Director of the South Asia Center at The Atlantic Council of the United States.

Declan Walsh is the Cairo Bureau chief for The New York Times, covering the Middle East. He was previously based in Pakistan until 2013, when the authorities expelled him on account of what they called “undesirable activities”. He is expected to move to Kenya in late 2020 to take up a position as the newspaper’s Chief Africa correspondent. He won a national journalism award at his first job with The Sunday Business Post for his coverage of homelessness, and later moved to Kenya to work as a freelance reporter. In 2004 he moved to Islamabad, as The Guardian’s Pakistan/Afghanistan correspondent.